Why is this idea so ridiculous? Shouldn't Democrats be thinking in terms of doing whatever is possible to get into office? Instead, both Clinton and Obama, and their supporters are turning against eachother. Fighting within - which, in the end, might doom every Democrat.
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RidingtheFence
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shadowsprite
MemberIf you could pick a Democrat that you think would make an excellent vice president, who would it be? And I don't mean Hillary or Barak.
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DonaldKing
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I am in agreement with the one who posted this question. A divided party rarely wins an election. But at the same time, I cannot imagine anyone worth electing would voluntarily agree to serve with Billary at the helm. Can you imagine dealing with both Clintons every day? I voted for Bill Clinton and believe he is an amazing politician, perhaps unmatched in a half-century. But there is no room for a strong, independent, and future oriented politician who is driven by idealism like Barack O'Bama serving under Hillary and Bill Clinton. It would be more appealing than substantial. He would be far better off to spend another term in the Senate, and wait than to accept the number two spot on the ticket. It would be like an explosive chemical compound, that would be a disaster waiting to happen.
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I'd live to see Edwards on the ticket with either Clinton or Obama. I don't think there would be any huge benefit gained by a Clinton/Obama ticket. Despite the similarities between them, its their differences that are driving their strongest supporters.
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shadowsprite
MemberDonald King has a good point. Waiting it out another 4 years to run for the top spot would be better for either candidate than being the vice president to the winning rival.
And Techfun might be right about John Edwards. He had a great deal of support in several states and those voters that aren't keen on Clinton or Obama might still show up for the polls in November and vote for the Democrats if he were on the ticket as the running mate.
Jay Inslee is my favorite Congressman. I'd love to see him run for vice president even though he isn't exactly a household name. But hey, we have had several Vice Presidents that were a big surprise when they were picked as running mates. One of them couldn't even spell 'potato'.
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shadowsprite
MemberJust in case voters don't show up in hoards to vote for the nominee for the Democrat Party we should think up a running mate for John McCain. How about a cross party ticket? If he wins the election maybe Obama could be the Vice President. Then everyone will be happy...or maybe not.
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I wonder about the possibilities for a running mate for McCain. I suspect that he will end up like GW Bush and be paired with a candidate who has no real future ambitions of his own.
Looking on the long term trends in the USA - including rejection of his position that we are in Iraq and the middle east militarily for the foreseeable future (which may be a TRUE fact, and just indigestible by the voting public) it will be hard for any Republican with serious presidential ambitions of their own to hitch their horse to McCain's wagon.
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RidingtheFence
MemberHow about Bill Richardson as a VP candidate? When he first declared he was considered a strong candidate, but he lacked a strong voice. He couldn't command an audience like Obama could. But he may be just the right type of person for VP.
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Riding: Gov. Bill Richardson To Endorse Obama - that made NPR this morning.
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Mrs. Clinton is not temperamentally right for the presidency, so I think Obama choosing her for the second slot would not be in the best interest of the country.
The woman who would deal with foreign leaders glibly said of President Putin, "Putin has no soul." If that does not show a temperamental fault line... among many other angry and impolitic things she has said... I don't know what would.
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Dchinni
MemberI think the biggest obstacle to the Clinton-Obama ticket is quite simply figuring out who would get the VP slot and who would be the nominee. Sen. Clinton may argue it is her turn to have a shot at the oval office, while Sen. Obama would argue he deserves the top spot because he has the most delegates.
What's more as the Democratic contest drags on, it gets less and less likely that one of them would be happy as the number two for the other.
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Yep Dchinni, except I would change:
What's more as the Democratic contest drags on, it gets less and less likely that one of them would be happy as the number two for the other.
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As the Democratic contest has dragged on we have gone beyond the point where either candidate could comfortably exist on the same ticket.
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shadowsprite
MemberOften I meet people who strongly identify themselves as independent voters. We need to watch out for the switch hitters. In many states they are the ones that can not vote in the primary because they are not willing to legally bind themselves to any party and sign the pledge. Whether this is good or bad is a complex issue. After hearing so many negative comments about Clinton and Obama they may decide to vote for John McCain even if he wasn't their choice before, or they may choose to skip the election altogether. With all the noise about Obama not much is being said about Senator McCain these days. Sometimes 'no news is good news'. Or so it would seem. The best choice of running mate on the Democratic ticket might be someone that hasn't been in the news lately. The Republicans would do well to pick someone that was a bit left of center in order to pick up those independent votes. Are there any Republicans that are Pro-choice, support domestic partnership laws, and believe that we need to start withdrawing troops from Iraq? Independent voters often choose issues over party lines. All of us could benefit by the media focusing on real issues and possible solutions and not just sound bites and mud-slinging.
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The last two articles I read about McCain were pretty sad. First was his confusing Sunnis and Shiites in Iraq ands Iran while talking to reporters. (Joe Leiberman whispered to him and set it right @ McCain Mixes Up Shiites, Sunni Extremists) The other was about how poor his fund raising has been when compared to either Obama or Clinton.
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Sturdybox
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I really like Diane Feinstein, but she may be too old for the VP slot. This is if Obama is the nominee, as it seems certain he will be. If Clinton is the nominee, then Bill Richardson. Oh, guess not. But he's looking rather macho lately. He used to look like a banker.
As for McCain's fund raising, it seemed to be adequate for someone without celebrity endorsers. After all, he's probably going to get the nomination.
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alaskanemesis
MemberWell using any of the combination of Obama, Hillery or Edward's will result in a loss of votes. Those who hate one of them will not vote for them if they are running as president or vice president. You get all the disadvantages without any of the advantages. Hillery has the highest negatives of any political candidate running for any party. That wont disappear just because she won't be at the top of the ticket.
"BR"
The same applies to Mitt Romney or Huckabee just as much as vice presidential candidates to go with McCaine. Most republicans actively dislike Romney either due to their anti mormon views or their view of him as someone with no views of his own and as someone who would say and do anything to get elected. Huckabee and for that matter the entire religious right,social conservative group is highly resented by many republicans as well as the overwhelming majority of Independents. Inclusion of any of them would be a death nell to any chances McCaine has to get elected.
"BR"
There are some available candidates who would add to their parties chances of getting elected. The two that I can think of who would be best resemble each other quite a bit even though they are from different political parties. Governors or senators who already had experience, political moderates,young at least compared to most, with a reputation for cleaning up corruption.
"BR"
I am talking about Claire McCaskal of Missouri who as a Democrat beat a religious right conservative in poor rural areas that normally vote solidly Republican, and Republican Sarah Palin of Alaska who fought the leadership of her own party and the oil industry lobbyists to beat a incumbent Governor by a 3 to 1 margin. Both of these candidates will add to their parties chances of winning.
"BR"
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